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	<title>Comments on: Soured Milk: Organic Dairy Farmers Boycott Stonyfield Farm, Horizon, Hood</title>
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		<title>By: wort</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-9288</link>
		<dc:creator>wort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I implore you all to not get too caught up in the "organic" classification. The laws surrounding this certification are purposely vague and misleading - e.g., organic milk just means they've been fed organic grain and receive no antibiotics. Same for organic chickens - they eat organic feed but are not required to ever see sunlight and often share a shoebox-sized cage with nine other chickens (debeaked to prevent cannibalism - chickens are NOT vegetarians!) While perhaps good intentioned (this is debatable), this "science" is misguided - it overlooks the fact that ruminants are not designed to eat that much grain. It makes them ill - hence the need for antibiotics. 

They are fed grain because grain is cheap (through government subsidies) and it makes the cows fat quickly. Try it yourself - eat nothing but corn and soy for 6 months, they'll bury you in a piano box.

Instead, cows should be allowed to forage for pasture. This keeps cows healthy and their milk clean. Too much grain in their diet causes an overly acidic condition, resulting in bloating and rampant mastitis. Pasteurization is pushed as a solution by the corporate food industry, but the two primary purposes for that is to 1) eliminate the costly expenses of maintaining a clean and healthy environment for the cows, dairy workers and, ultimately, consumers,  and 2) to eliminate competition from small farmers and family farms who could sell directly to the public at farmers markets and roadside farm stands (remember those?). Instead, farmers are forced to sell to Big Dairy at a fraction of its value.

Not only does pasteurization destroy the delicate 3-dimensional proteins (making them unrecognizable to the body) and destroys the nutritional value of milk, but also ruptures the bodies of all the bacteria, releasing histamines into the milk. This is what causes most milk allergies - the histamines from 100's of millions of ruptured bacteria bodies. 

Did you know that the primary purpose of homogenization is to not only hide the fact that there is little cream in the pasteurized milk (and to hide disproportionate amounts of cream across the product line), but also to emulsify the grayish, dead bacterial "sludge" that would otherwise accumulate at the bottom? Sure, it's dead - but I wouldn't drink it.

If I had to distill all the reasons for avoiding pasteurized milk into just one fact, I like this one: if you feed a calf pasteurized milk, it will not live to maturity.

I second the top post (Karen) in suggesting realmilk.com for more information about raw milk and its demonization by Big Dairy, unfortunately supported by the conventional medical industry, government and other corporate sellouts. Money can't buy love, but it sure buys everything else.

Brian X - please do some more reading, my friend, and adjust your food science blog as necessary. I visited your blog, enjoy it, but your comment above reveals that some remedial research is in order. I highly recommend "The Untold Story of Milk" by Ron Schmid, "The Raw Truth About Milk" by William Campbell Douglass, MD, "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon and Dr. Mary Enig, and "Real Food" by Nina Planck (a very good primer covering many exceptional books that deal with particular subjects in detail). If nothing else, an in-depth visit to http://www.westonaprice.org/ would be a good place to start.

Yours in Health,
Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I implore you all to not get too caught up in the &#8220;organic&#8221; classification. The laws surrounding this certification are purposely vague and misleading - e.g., organic milk just means they&#8217;ve been fed organic grain and receive no antibiotics. Same for organic chickens - they eat organic feed but are not required to ever see sunlight and often share a shoebox-sized cage with nine other chickens (debeaked to prevent cannibalism - chickens are NOT vegetarians!) While perhaps good intentioned (this is debatable), this &#8220;science&#8221; is misguided - it overlooks the fact that ruminants are not designed to eat that much grain. It makes them ill - hence the need for antibiotics. </p>
<p>They are fed grain because grain is cheap (through government subsidies) and it makes the cows fat quickly. Try it yourself - eat nothing but corn and soy for 6 months, they&#8217;ll bury you in a piano box.</p>
<p>Instead, cows should be allowed to forage for pasture. This keeps cows healthy and their milk clean. Too much grain in their diet causes an overly acidic condition, resulting in bloating and rampant mastitis. Pasteurization is pushed as a solution by the corporate food industry, but the two primary purposes for that is to 1) eliminate the costly expenses of maintaining a clean and healthy environment for the cows, dairy workers and, ultimately, consumers,  and 2) to eliminate competition from small farmers and family farms who could sell directly to the public at farmers markets and roadside farm stands (remember those?). Instead, farmers are forced to sell to Big Dairy at a fraction of its value.</p>
<p>Not only does pasteurization destroy the delicate 3-dimensional proteins (making them unrecognizable to the body) and destroys the nutritional value of milk, but also ruptures the bodies of all the bacteria, releasing histamines into the milk. This is what causes most milk allergies - the histamines from 100&#8217;s of millions of ruptured bacteria bodies. </p>
<p>Did you know that the primary purpose of homogenization is to not only hide the fact that there is little cream in the pasteurized milk (and to hide disproportionate amounts of cream across the product line), but also to emulsify the grayish, dead bacterial &#8220;sludge&#8221; that would otherwise accumulate at the bottom? Sure, it&#8217;s dead - but I wouldn&#8217;t drink it.</p>
<p>If I had to distill all the reasons for avoiding pasteurized milk into just one fact, I like this one: if you feed a calf pasteurized milk, it will not live to maturity.</p>
<p>I second the top post (Karen) in suggesting realmilk.com for more information about raw milk and its demonization by Big Dairy, unfortunately supported by the conventional medical industry, government and other corporate sellouts. Money can&#8217;t buy love, but it sure buys everything else.</p>
<p>Brian X - please do some more reading, my friend, and adjust your food science blog as necessary. I visited your blog, enjoy it, but your comment above reveals that some remedial research is in order. I highly recommend &#8220;The Untold Story of Milk&#8221; by Ron Schmid, &#8220;The Raw Truth About Milk&#8221; by William Campbell Douglass, MD, &#8220;Nourishing Traditions&#8221; by Sally Fallon and Dr. Mary Enig, and &#8220;Real Food&#8221; by Nina Planck (a very good primer covering many exceptional books that deal with particular subjects in detail). If nothing else, an in-depth visit to <a href="http://www.westonaprice.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.westonaprice.org/</a> would be a good place to start.</p>
<p>Yours in Health,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-8001</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really Interesting. Thanks for the Info. I love your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Interesting. Thanks for the Info. I love your site.</p>
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		<title>By: The Stories (and Money) Behind 10 of Your Favorite Organic and Natural Brands&#160;&#124;&#160;Health and Fitness</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-7787</link>
		<dc:creator>The Stories (and Money) Behind 10 of Your Favorite Organic and Natural Brands&#160;&#124;&#160;Health and Fitness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] buying powdered milk from New Zealand and shipping it here to make yogurt. This year, Stonyfield got into trouble with organic farmers because when demand for organic milk went down and the big companies (like [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] buying powdered milk from New Zealand and shipping it here to make yogurt. This year, Stonyfield got into trouble with organic farmers because when demand for organic milk went down and the big companies (like [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Stories (and money) Behind 10 of Your Favorite Organic and Natural Foods &#124; EcoSalon</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-7755</link>
		<dc:creator>The Stories (and money) Behind 10 of Your Favorite Organic and Natural Foods &#124; EcoSalon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] buying powdered milk from New Zealand and shipping it here to make yogurt. This year, Stonyfield got into trouble with organic farmers because when demand for organic milk went down and the big companies (like [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] buying powdered milk from New Zealand and shipping it here to make yogurt. This year, Stonyfield got into trouble with organic farmers because when demand for organic milk went down and the big companies (like [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-6273</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-6273</guid>
		<description>Not all Maine organic milk producers support this boycott.  We can't be in favor of something that will cause more organic farmers to be dropped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all Maine organic milk producers support this boycott.  We can&#8217;t be in favor of something that will cause more organic farmers to be dropped.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacki</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-5994</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jarod,

What is Horizon's relationship to Dean Foods and the Aurora factory farms, and how does this relate to its "beliefs and practices"? 

More on Horizon factory farms:

http://www.cornucopia.org/horizon-factory-farm-photo-gallery/
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_400.cfm


Jacki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarod,</p>
<p>What is Horizon&#8217;s relationship to Dean Foods and the Aurora factory farms, and how does this relate to its &#8220;beliefs and practices&#8221;? </p>
<p>More on Horizon factory farms:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cornucopia.org/horizon-factory-farm-photo-gallery/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cornucopia.org/horizon-factory-farm-photo-gallery/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_400.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_400.cfm</a></p>
<p>Jacki</p>
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		<title>By: Jarod</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-5980</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-5980</guid>
		<description>Hey guys, 

I work for Horizon and just want to clear something up quickly. We have absolutely no ties to H.P. Hood. 

We also partner and support 485 family farmers across the nation. Please check out www.horizonorganicfacts.com for more info on our farming beliefs and practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, </p>
<p>I work for Horizon and just want to clear something up quickly. We have absolutely no ties to H.P. Hood. </p>
<p>We also partner and support 485 family farmers across the nation. Please check out <a href="http://www.horizonorganicfacts.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.horizonorganicfacts.com</a> for more info on our farming beliefs and practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-5827</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The position of the farmers in this article is completely unclear or maybe the farmers have no real point at all. 

From what I read, Hood advised the farmers that they would not renew their contracts when they expired (on Aug 1). So what's the problem?! Hood is not obligated in any way to renew a contract. And the farmers claim that they were promised the moon is ridiculous also. If you were promised the moon, then shouldn't that have been written into the contract? If it wasn't, then obviously you were NOT promised the moon.

Seems to me that the call for a boycott is just an unfair tactic to try to force Hood to do business with them. 

That said, Hood's explanation for why they decided not to renew is also a mumbo jumbo of excuses which don't make much sense to me. Anyways, mumbo jumbo or not, Hood still has the right to not renew, so I still have to side with Hood on this one. I will not support this boycott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The position of the farmers in this article is completely unclear or maybe the farmers have no real point at all. </p>
<p>From what I read, Hood advised the farmers that they would not renew their contracts when they expired (on Aug 1). So what&#8217;s the problem?! Hood is not obligated in any way to renew a contract. And the farmers claim that they were promised the moon is ridiculous also. If you were promised the moon, then shouldn&#8217;t that have been written into the contract? If it wasn&#8217;t, then obviously you were NOT promised the moon.</p>
<p>Seems to me that the call for a boycott is just an unfair tactic to try to force Hood to do business with them. </p>
<p>That said, Hood&#8217;s explanation for why they decided not to renew is also a mumbo jumbo of excuses which don&#8217;t make much sense to me. Anyways, mumbo jumbo or not, Hood still has the right to not renew, so I still have to side with Hood on this one. I will not support this boycott.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian X</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-5819</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen:

Raw milk is a dangerous product even if it comes from theoretically clean cows, and there are a lot of people pushing it out of willful ignorance or sheer blinkeredness, and I wouldn't touch it unless it was turned into cheese (which generally overwhelms the pathogens). 

But hey, what do I know? I just have a blog about food science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen:</p>
<p>Raw milk is a dangerous product even if it comes from theoretically clean cows, and there are a lot of people pushing it out of willful ignorance or sheer blinkeredness, and I wouldn&#8217;t touch it unless it was turned into cheese (which generally overwhelms the pathogens). </p>
<p>But hey, what do I know? I just have a blog about food science.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas L. Holderfield</title>
		<link>http://www.chelseagreen.com/content/soured-milk-organic-dairy-farmers-boycott-stonyfield-farm-horizon-hood/#comment-5770</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas L. Holderfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  I do not want this to become a disagreement amongst friends.  After all, I think we are all trying to do the same and right thing.  Eat more organic!  However, as I originally said, I research this stuff quite thoroughly and wished every one would check their sources before taking such drastic steps as mounting a boycott or printing an article based on incorrect source material.  CROPP is a co-op of local farmers all over the country that other companies, such as Organic Valley and Stoneyfied Farms belong to.  Most organic food companies have been rated on their various products on several websites.  One such site shows the following ratings for the 2 products I have been discussing:

http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/FarmID_94.html

http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/FarmID_105.html

Our Organic Valley milk in Colorado comes from local farms.  See this article:

http://www.organicvalley.coop/our-story/meet-the-farmers/rocky-mountain/meet-the-mikitas/page-1/


However, I fully agree with boycotting Horizon Organic and the big box chains' store brands.

Respectfully,

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  I do not want this to become a disagreement amongst friends.  After all, I think we are all trying to do the same and right thing.  Eat more organic!  However, as I originally said, I research this stuff quite thoroughly and wished every one would check their sources before taking such drastic steps as mounting a boycott or printing an article based on incorrect source material.  CROPP is a co-op of local farmers all over the country that other companies, such as Organic Valley and Stoneyfied Farms belong to.  Most organic food companies have been rated on their various products on several websites.  One such site shows the following ratings for the 2 products I have been discussing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/FarmID_94.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/FarmID_94.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/FarmID_105.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/FarmID_105.html</a></p>
<p>Our Organic Valley milk in Colorado comes from local farms.  See this article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.organicvalley.coop/our-story/meet-the-farmers/rocky-mountain/meet-the-mikitas/page-1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.organicvalley.coop/our-story/meet-the-farmers/rocky-mountain/meet-the-mikitas/page-1/</a></p>
<p>However, I fully agree with boycotting Horizon Organic and the big box chains&#8217; store brands.</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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